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Thu, Aug. 12th, 2004, 11:31 am
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If you feel that the closure of Agricultural study at Wye should not happen, please sign below.
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The message body may be left blank (just put a full stop), but it would be useful if you put a sentence or two outlining any connection to Wye, and any particular reasons for wishing Agricultural study at Wye to continue (please keep it brief; there will be room on other threads to present the arguments in full). Whilst we welcome other views, on this thread any other posts will be deleted or moved to another thread.

Go on then, what are you waiting for?

Thu, Aug. 12th, 2004 04:18 am (UTC)
(Anonymous): Nichola Hawkins, Sheppey, Kent (current Wye student)

As a current student in the department of Agricultural Sciences at Wye, I am completely opposed to removing te opportunity for future students to do likewise.

Thu, Aug. 12th, 2004 04:58 am (UTC)
(Anonymous): Andrea Smith (current WCUS president)

I am absolutely apalled by the actions of IC in this matter. Pressure must come from students both past and present for an honest consultation with students and an explanation from those who have decided on the future of Wye.

Thu, Aug. 12th, 2004 05:35 am (UTC)
(Anonymous): Jen Walter, Hampshire (Wye UG student)

Wye has a unique atmosphere that is steeped in tradition and it would be a shame to take this away from its students. I also feel that this closure will be yet another unwanted blow to farming as we will be losing an institution that has worldwide respect and recogntition in the field of agriculture.

Thu, Aug. 12th, 2004 06:20 am (UTC)
(Anonymous): Lorraine Swaby (undergraduate wye campus)

I can't believe they are shutting down such an inspirational place to study science.

Thu, Aug. 12th, 2004 06:44 am (UTC)
(Anonymous): James Hadlow, Newmarket (at Wye 93-96)

I think it is criminal what Imperial is doing to Wye. I work for a large agrochemical company and we are finding it increasing difficult to find competent agric/hortic graduates.

Fri, Aug. 13th, 2004 03:32 am (UTC)
cathos: Catherine Ward, High Wycombe (current Wye UG)

Lets not have another Sykes' Folly down at Wye (speaking of course of the fountain on Withersdaine lawn).

Sat, Aug. 14th, 2004 01:40 am (UTC)
(Anonymous): Dawinderpal Sahota (Elected WCUS President 2004/2005)

I think it's a travesty that the very core and essence of the Wye campus is being disregarded by IC. In closing down the Agricultural courses, IC would be ignoring the strong history and heritage that is synonymous with Wye.

Wed, Aug. 18th, 2004 06:47 am (UTC)
(Anonymous)

It is a disgrace that Imperial cannot see that shutting Wye College is essentially shutting down the last of the top quality agricultural colleges in this country. When farming does become profitable again where do the sons/daughter of the farming community go to get their agricultural degrees then? Cirencester!?

Wed, Aug. 18th, 2004 07:05 am (UTC)
(Anonymous): Utter disgrace

There has been a history of teaching at Wye for many hundreds of years and the college has a world-wide reputation and has fostered many influential and highly successful graduates. 10 years age Wye was a thriving, vibrant place and a glorious place to spend 3 years of my life. I simply cannot believe that the place is no-longer viable (save for business studies which always seemed a slightly strange course for a rural spot). Imperial is responsible for either gross mismanagement, or as appears to be the case, a cynical and calculated plan to close the entire site and sell it off. No doubt we will hear of further multi million pound building projects at Imperials London colleges in the 'Imperial Matters' (but Wye does not?) paper which irritates me every time I receive it.
How very sad.

Wed, Aug. 18th, 2004 07:09 am (UTC)
(Anonymous): Don't let Wye go

This college has given so much to many people. Even though it is only small it brough so many people together, many of whom weren't even at the college at the same time. where else could you find a college with a community and support network like that?

Thu, Aug. 19th, 2004 01:04 am (UTC)
dinsdalealex: Alex Dinsdale - Wye Graduate and MSc student

Having been hangin' around Wye for a while now this just appears to be the realisation of years of earlier rumours which have been since it was first known that IC would be taking over Wye. The fact that a World Class institution is closing down is absolutely appalling - and how very sad that so many potential future students will miss all the fun and opportunities which Wye brings. Agriculturally & politically there are significant changes happening in the UK at the moment which are likely to bring increased opportunities in agriculture over the next 5/10/15 years - yet the department is closing. Screw Imperial

Thu, Aug. 19th, 2004 06:39 am (UTC)
(Anonymous): Wife Forever

I think that it is a great shame that so many years of history and a great future can be written off as 'economically unviable'. Lets face it Imperial has never supported the spirit and tradition of why taking every step possible to sanitise it. The very fact that Wye wasn't entered in the UCAS handbook a couple of years back clearly shows how seriously they took the undergradaute population, it is such a shame that what is a great academic institution has been so short sighted in their treatment of another. I for one am proud to have attended Wye and have left taking with me a great degree and friendships that will last a lifetime, I feel very sad that others will not get this opportunity.

C. Shears (WCUS Exec Member 1998)

Thu, Aug. 19th, 2004 09:59 am (UTC)
(Anonymous): James Gibson - Current Wye UG Student

I believe that this sadly represents the whole situation which the UK agricultural industry is currently facing. There is an immense lack of enthusiasm amongst many groups, mainly in my opinion, stretching from the Government. Many people and organisations are, some may say, "giving up" on agriculture in the UK, depriving the industry from the much needed input it needs to survive. This is a not just educational centre such as Wye, but many companies who trade with over seas companies rather than British farmers.

The country needs places like Wye to allow British farming to continue. Many people may not know, but a similar institution, Seal Hayne, near Plymouth, recently closed this year. This was also a world-renowned centre for Agriculture and provided training for thousands who now work in the Agricultural Sector.

Agricultural jobs are available as mentioned by James Hadlow and there is simply a duty by education organisations to provide the opportunity of training for the country.

Other centres for Agriculture such as Royal Agricultural College, Writtle and Harper Adams are similar centres to Wye. These provide other practical courses to students, which Wye could easily provide.

I am currently studying Agricultural Science at Wye. Only one other person currently studies for my degree while 6 others are studying Agricultural Business Management. Years ago, there would have been many more numbers than this and courses such as Applied Business Management (currently the most subscribed in my year) wouldn’t have existed. I am not against these courses in the slightest and I know these courses are needed. More needs to be done to encourage students into Agriculture, although now even if the College does not close, this announcement will im sure cause numbers of applications to drop further.

Sadly the decision resides with someone in a suit in London rather than people in the country who really understand how the centre runs.

If Wye ceases to exist, not only will be a huge loss to the local community (once owned by Wye College), but it will be another sad day for Agriculture. I understand that the College is owned by Imperial College London, but I think with adjustments, the College could maybe exist on its on. There would be a lot of work needed, but imp sure this is not impossible.

I recognise the fact that some people may disagree with my comments and statement above is entirely my own opinion. Thank you!

James Gibson

Thu, Aug. 19th, 2004 11:09 am (UTC)
(Anonymous): Ronan Burns, Kilkenny, Ireland. U.G. 98-01

I am outraged on hearing what imperial are doing to Wye. The college has been producing quality people for the agricultural workforce for decades and would continue to do so if allowed. The 'equine' graduates have being making a big impression on the industry in such a short period since the introduction of related degrees.
So are imperial looking for a quick buck by selling the college so soon after acquiring it? I'm sure imperial have some semi-idle, over-qualified marketing professor that would be capable of marketing the college to increase numbers.

Thu, Aug. 19th, 2004 12:35 pm (UTC)
(Anonymous): Henry Walker, Devon ABM 1999

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Fri, Aug. 20th, 2004 02:26 am (UTC)
(Anonymous): Matthew Bell, Somerset, Animal Science, 1999-2002

Wye offers an absolutley unique university life. There is no where quite like it.
Imperial should realise that Wye College is not just an asset, Wye College is priceless.

Sun, Aug. 22nd, 2004 08:29 am (UTC)
(Anonymous): Wye

ENough said already...

Sun, Aug. 22nd, 2004 08:35 am (UTC)
(Anonymous): Richard Crowhurst, Hortic 93-96

As someone who works in the Produce Industry, it still amazes me the reputation Wye and its graduates carry, and how many of them there are in the agricultural, horticultural and food industries. How IC can ignore the contribution these businesses make to the economy is beyond me. I just hope the other providers of similar courses benefit from Imperial's stupidity and ignorance.

Sun, Aug. 22nd, 2004 02:03 pm (UTC)
(Anonymous): Dan Murphy Agric 99-02 (now Hunt Servant)

For once i agree with Matt Bell, Wye College is Priceless.

For decades Wye College has produced graduates of the highest calibre for the land based industries. It would be disasterous for these industries if this supply of labour were to cease. This country will always need farmers.

I met a great many truly special people at Wye, where i spent the happiest three years of my life. With these people i did a lot of things that i will always remember, as well as a lot of things that i have never remembered. Wye is a unique environment in which to develop an education due to its size, people and huge sense of community spirit. I saddens me that future generations will not get the same opportunities as i did to become part of Wye's colourful history.

Please please urge as many people as possible to contribute to this page.

Danno

Mon, Aug. 23rd, 2004 09:00 am (UTC)
(Anonymous): Elizabeth Webb, Kent (current Wye student)

All I can say is that I have had a fantastic time so far in Wye and can't wait to get back to my final year. I know I would not have been as happy at any other university campus as I have been here. Wye is unique and the prospect of closure greatly saddens me.

Mon, Aug. 23rd, 2004 10:16 am (UTC)
(Anonymous): Benedict Rich Oxfordshire RES 1998

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Tue, Aug. 24th, 2004 05:16 am (UTC)
(Anonymous): Simon Jelinek 1997 - 2001 Ex Deputy President 1998

All i can say that it would appear that IC are up to their old bull sh*t again. All the support they were going to give to wye and all the promises at the outset were just lies.



Tue, Aug. 24th, 2004 06:14 am (UTC)
(Anonymous): Sara Sawkins. Somerset. Current WCUS Secretary

I believe that IC are making a huge mistake by deciding to discontinue agricultural courses at Wye. Im absolutely disgusted at their idea to turn it into what seems to be a business college. Wye is such a unique place and also a very important place in terms of British agriculture. If they want to set up a business college why not do it in London. Business students will not want to be stuck in the middle of Kent. They will not appreciate Wye College for what it really is. The best years of my life so far have been in Wye and i would not like to see others deprived of the great experiences ive had in Wye. We must do everything we can to stop this happening!!

Fri, Aug. 27th, 2004 03:41 am (UTC)
(Anonymous): KEEP WYE

Jason Clarke (1st-->2nd Year Elec.Eng Undergraduate)
I might have to study in the city, but once I'm done, I'll always be a country boy.

Fri, Aug. 27th, 2004 05:56 am (UTC)
(Anonymous): Re: KEEP WYE

Good lad Jason

Sun, Aug. 29th, 2004 04:35 pm (UTC)
(Anonymous): Martin Zerfahs, Charing, Kent (Impending Wye Student)

On the day I was accepted on my course (Applied Business Mgt), Imperial announced the 'plans' for the review of the college.
Having spent 2 years endeavouring to secure a place at Wye, NOT Sth Ken, I was horrified.
Now the dust has settled temporarily,(round 1 to IC), and putting self interest aside, my concerns are for the Community that the College is an integral part of. Four generations of my family have lived and worked in and around Wye, the village and college. None, until now, have studied there.
The College and Village are special places, they are inseparable. The future of the college and campus cannot be determined in terms of financial cost alone, the price is a human one (where variable fees DO apply).
See you in Freshers Week.

Tue, Aug. 31st, 2004 07:11 am (UTC)
(Anonymous): Fiona Harrower, Southampton

I was amazed when I heard the news concerning Wye's future. Having just spent the four best years of my life studying in Wye I believe it would be a great shame for the department to close.